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Using a process for painting stained glass windows developed in the Middle
Ages, Seattle artist Cappy Thompson creates intelligent "picture
poems" which marry mythology, folk styles and self-expression. Her
use of the vessel form lends an ethereal luminosity to her narrative and
gives her stories a place to live. Her painting style, in combination
with the metaphor of the vessel, results in lush, feminine works which
inspire a childlike "magic" reminiscent of hearing a fantastical
fairy tale.
Born in Alexandria, Virginia, in 1952, Thompson grew up in Seattle and
attended the Evergreen State College in Olympia, Washington, where she
received her B.A. in 1976 in painting and printmaking. Basically self-taught
artistically as well as technically, Thompsons first professional
exposure to glass came in 1975 when she worked for a small studio in Olympia.
For several years she learned and worked in solitude until her reputation
brought her to the attention of glass artists Charles Parriott, Therman
Statom and Dale Chihuly. In 1984 she moved back to Seattle and her subsequent
exposure to artists at Pilchuck Glass School in Stanwood, Washington,
led her to painting on vessel forms.
Thompson has taught at Pilchuck and Penland, and her work is part of the
public collections of The Corning Museum of Glass, Corning, New York,
The American Craft Museum, New York, and The Hokkaido Museum of Modern
Art, Hokkaido, Japan, to name only a few. Her work will be exhibited in
a one-person show at Leo Kaplan Modern in New York, in June 1997 and can
also be seen in a national tour beginning in 1998 of "American Glass:
Masters of the Art", sponsored by the Smithsonian Institution. She
is also represented by Habatat Galleries in Boca Raton, Florida, and Grover/Thurston
Gallery in Seattle.
The following is a conversation with Thompson about her aesthetic inspiration,
her painting methods and her walk down the path of beauty.
GA: Can you trace the steps you took on the path from stained glass to
the combination of paint on three-dimensional glass vessel forms?
CT: I came to glass as a painter and printmaker in 1975 when I began working
in a stained glass studio as a summer job. I was attending the Evergreen
State College, and it was suggested that I do an internship at the studio
researching glass painting
Stained glass is an inherently beautiful and powerful material for image
making because it incorporates the physical experience of light. Where
a painted surface reflects light, a glass panel transmits it directly.
I had a tremendous loyalty to stained glass and worked in it nearly exclusively
during those first years. My friends who were glassblowers convinced me
it would be a good idea to paint on glass vessels. Flora Mace gave me
a vessel one day and had me paint an image on it. Soon after I painted
a large bowl, and I realized how interesting it was compositionally, especially
considering the fact that my work is pictorial narrative. And here was
a little environment in which a story could live. At that point I knew
intuitively what the three-dimensional form would bring to my work.
GA: Did you learn to blow glass at that point?
CT: Im not a glassblower; that requires a completely different set
of skills. In the beginning, my glassblowing friends gave me pieces to
paint on. And then I bartered until the work started to sell. Im
now able to commission vessels Ive designed from Ben Moore in Seattle.
He has an incredible crew of people working with him; Dante Marioni and
Rich Royal have made pieces for me. Billy Morris made the first group
of blanks for me as a favor.
GA: Did you harbor reservations about this new method of working?
CT: Not reservations, but I thought my work in stained glass was very
good, and there werent many artists pursuing it as a medium for
expression, for painting. I loved stained glass, but once I attempted
painting on vessels, it didnt take long to make the transition.
It allowed me to do more work and develop my drawing because the pieces
took less time to make than stained glass. And it allowed me to paint
three-dimensionally. You could see through the transparent glass vessel,
so the composition would shift depending on your point of view.
GA: What was the perception of painting on glass when you began, and how
has that evolved over the last 10 years?
CT: Early on, I had the feeling as I applied for public stained glass
commissions that people didnt know what they were looking at; it
wasnt in keeping with the perception of contemporary stained glass.
I knew the work was appropriate and of high quality, so I couldnt
understand why juries werent responding to it except that it wasnt
in the language of what they thought of as stained glass. But in my vessel
work, the Medieval style of painting went beyond historical vase painting
in content and actually helped develop an audience.
There werent very many artists painting on glass in this country
when I started, though there was a continuing lineage of European glass
painters -- Erwin Eisch, Ulrica Vallien, Patrick Reyntiens, Hans Gottfried
Von Stock-hausen, Albinus Elskus. As the studio glass movement was taking
off here, the blowers were at the forefront. Being introduced to Pilchuck
and that community was how I discovered other artists working as I was
in traditional fired paints -- a vitreous powder made from metal oxides,
mixed with a media, painted on and fired to fuse the paint to the surface
of the glass. Theres still only a handful of artists using this
method, although our numbers are growing.
GA: Your area of the country, the Pacific Northwest, is home to a community
of talented, prominent glass painters.
CT: Yes. Walter Lieberman, Charlie Parriott and Dick Weiss, who are good
friends of mine, were some of the first people in the area to take this
on as a lifes work. Another dozen artists have joined that community
which feeds the quality and energy of the group. Because Pilchuck is nearby,
there are other types of painting being explored such as the techniques
inspired by David Hoppers Paradise Paints, which allow you to paint
on a graal blank and case over it. And then of course theres Bob
Carlson and Ginny Ruffner who are painting but not with fired processes.
The painters bring content to glass. We all help one another through mutual
interest, and all the work is positively affected by that.
GA: Can you describe your process?
CT: The style of painting Ive developed over a number of years is
called grisaille technique. It involves a subtractive process with dry
brushes. Its the only way to achieve that gray tonal appearance
in the painting. This is the same process that I used on stained glass.
The enamels are made from metal oxides and are fluxed with a low-melting
lead glass. The paint fuses to the surface at the same temperature at
which the lead glass melts, which is 1100 degrees F.
I begin by drawing directly on the outside of the vessel with a black
marker, letting the composition develop on the piece. I mix the paint,
and trace the drawing from the bottom up. I work on a light table and
lay the vessel on its side, so Im working on a horizontal surface
inside the vessel. The handles of my paint brushes have been cut to fit
inside. This first layer is called tracery. These black lines give the
work its Medieval quality.
The second layer of paint is called the matt, a wash of gray paint which
is applied evenly over the entire surface of the drawing. The highlights
are removed with dry brushes -- stipplers and scrubs. Stipplers are bristle
brushes shaped into a dome by burning over a candle. They leave a dot
pattern. Scrubs are flat bristle brushes which have been trimmed and burned.
They leave a line pattern. This removal of paint gives texture and volume
to the drawing. I remove the paint from all the background areas, very
carefully clean the vessel and fire it a second time.
I fire to 1100 degrees, which is high enough to slump the pieces. Youre
on the verge of disaster, but with the use of an electronic controller
the kiln is programmed to ramp slowly to the annealing temperature of
the glass, then quickly to the firing temperature of the glass paint,
and quickly back down to the annealing temperature where you soak the
piece and slowly bring it back down to room temperature.
Then the colors are applied. Im working with transparent colors
which change significantly when fired. First I do a watercolor rendering
of the image to see how I want the colors to appear. I make notes, take
Polaroids and apply the enamels to the piece accordingly. In some cases
I layer enamels to change, enrich or blend a color. I usually fire twice
for color. Thus each piece requires a minimum of four firings.
These vessels are meant to be artworks, not functional objects. Because
the transparent enamels are fluxed so heavily, the lead glass is soft.
Direct contact with water will break down the enamel over a period of
time, but in theory these works should last for thousands of years if
cared for properly.
GA: What inspires the narrative in your work? How are your themes conceived?
CT: I went to a lecture last night where Swedish glass artist Bertil Vallein
said, Ill tell you where my work comes from, but Im
going to lie, because most artists dont really know where their
work comes from. And I think theres some truth in that. Artistic
creation is a mystery.
Ive always been interested in and made work that is narrative, whether
in panels or vessel form. Over the years Ive studied images that
Ive had a strong response to. Ive thought about the creation
of my personal aesthetic experience -- the perceptual impact, followed
by an emotional response, which may turn into a sense of wonder -- magic
even -- in looking at certain images. For me this starts as a reading
of the image, then recognizing a story, or making one up for myself, given
the visual information within the work.
My emotions are stirred by such things as naive, symbolic drawings, flat
perspectives, and dream-like qualities found in primitive painting and
in outsider and folk arts. Magic is in the wildly imaginative mythic figures,
jewel-toned landscapes, and anthropomorphised animals of Persian miniatures
and Indian painting. This experience feeds my imagination and nurtures
my soul.
I believe that I had this same kind of experience hearing fairy tales
as a child. In my work Im aspiring to create this experience for
the viewer, to be emotionally transported by a story, and to resonate
with its meaning.
Several years ago my work took a departure from earlier compositions,
which often were based on existing mythology and folklore or had fewer
symbols and simpler messages. I recognized that certain images were personal
icons -symbols with which I closely identified and which had begun, almost
involuntarily, to populate my work. Certain pieces became "picture
poems" that directly reflected my inner life. I began consciously
to incorporate aspects of my personal life into my work, beginning with
my dog, whom I started to paint as a way of dealing with his aging. Next
I myself became a character in the narratives, along with friends and
family members. Soon I painted scenes from a new mythology in which I
appeared with my favorite Hindu deities.
The work of the last several years has become an exploration of world
spiritual traditions, with elements from my dream life and meanderings
of my imagination. I think Ive ventured into the realm of mythopoesis,
or myth-making, where symbols, icons and images drift to mind, assemble
into picture poems and take on a complex life of their own.
GA: What is more important to you as the artist -- the paint or the glass?
CT: The imagery is paramount, and developing the narrative is my primary
focus. The perfect ground for this narrative work, however, is the transparent
glass vessel. The vessel is a container, a bounded surface with interior
access. This allows the vessel to become a world or microcosm, a body
or self, and a room or space. These metaphors support and reinforce the
narrative. The transparency of the vessel allows you to see the surface
narrative, into it, and through it. The circumferential form of the vessel
allows you to circumambulate the story, to move through distance and time.
Adding this third dimension to the painting exponentially increases its
potentiality. It allows the painting to become sculptural.
The narrative becomes the vessels content, which is reinforced by
the fact that the pieces are reverse painted, and therefore physically
inside the vessel. Because the glass I use is translucent, the vessel
gathers light, breathing life and spirit into the story.
GA: What inspired your piece "Adoration of the Cosmic Cow: The Goddess
Parvati Leads Me to a Deeper Understanding of the Feminine Principle"?
CT: That piece is the marriage of two concepts I was studying. The first
was a hexagram from the I Ching, which spoke of the image of fire, of
radiant nature clinging to or resting on something -- the sun and moon
clinging to heaven and the grass resting on the earth. It said, "Care
of the cow brings good fortune." This reminded me of a reference
in Vedic -- early Hindu philosophy -- to the divine feminine as the Cosmic
Cow, Aditi, a feminine principle which embraces the universe, is greater
than it, and from which everything evolves.
My vessel depicts the double image of fire as undulating hills revealing
their volcanic core and as the sun blazing in heaven above. The landscape
became the pasture for Aditi and a herd of 10 cattle, the number of perfection.
Wanting to personalize the vessel, I added myself with Parvati, one of
the highest feminine deities in the Hindu pantheon, known as the Daughter
of the Hills. In my vessel she tends the sacred herd and serves as my
spiritual guide.
GA: Your piece "Three Queens" was a commissioned work, correct?
CT: Yes. I was asked to design an award for J.C. Penney Companys
Juanita Kreps Award. In its fifth year, this award is presented to an
American woman of merit. Last year I made a piece called "Celestial
Guardians" for Sally Ride, the first woman astronaut. This year Beverly
Sills, the opera star, was the recipient. Making this piece was especially
enjoyable because I love the costumes of opera. I interviewed Sills
agent as to what roles were important to her and ended up painting three
from Donizetti operas -- Anne Boleyn, Mary Queen of Scots and Elizabeth
I. The vessel shows three views, the one presented here being Elizabeth
I, the only performance in Sills own estimation which she sang flawlessly.
GA: Much of your work is self-referential, such as the piece "I Receive
a Great Blessing from the Sun and the Moon: I Will Be an Artist and Walk
the Path of Beauty".
CT: I had been thinking and reading about the effects of the sun and the
moon. Theyre powerful images that archetypi-cally pervade everything.
This piece is about my fate. If you look through the three little vessels
hovering above me, you can see through the interior to lotuses floating
in the cosmic ocean behind. The water is the subconscious which I tap
to make the work. Its the sacred sea which is in all of us. The
piece is about how wonderful it is to have this life and be an artist.
GA: Though each piece tells its own story, is there one general message
you try to convey with this work?
CT: Im on the path to beauty. When the goodness of an objects
form and content grabs your attention, arouses your emotion and involves
you intellectually -- thats the experience of beauty. Seeing something
beautiful is good for you. I try to create that experience by designing
and painting vessels which, in my own way, affirm the beauty of life,
of love and of spirit.
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